At the time of the hearing Barry Fisk was the General Manager of Te Kāhui Kāhu at the Ministry of Social Development. He had been employed by the Ministry of Social Development or its predecessors since 1976 and had held a number of senior roles including Assistant Director Corporate Services for Manukau District, Regional Executive Officer for South West Auckland Region, Regional Commissioner for Social Development, Auckland and a number of Director roles as part of the Work and Income Executive team. Barry’s evidence included information on the role of Te Kāhui Kāhu and the accreditation of care providers.